Good to see another church going up in Yekaterinburg. St Sergius is a fine choice – we sing his troparion often in our choir. Hope the builders finish it without too many delays.
Nice to hear they're building a St. Sergius church out at the ZIK plant. Our parish choir sings his troparion every week too, so I get what Thomas means. Hope the foundation holds up okay through the Ural winters.
It's good that a new place is being built in honor of Saint Sergius. In our parish, we often mention him, especially in the fall, when we bake cakes for the patron saint. I hope the foundation holds up well in the frosts of the Urals, because I've heard how the concrete cracks if I don't do it right.
I'm glad for ZiK, Sergius of Radonezh - this is always appropriate. In our choir we also often sing his troparion, especially at the all-night vigil. The main thing is that the foundation is poured with normal insulation, otherwise the Ural frosts will tear the concrete, as my wife said when we remodeled the porch last year.
It’s good that on ZiK they decided to build a church specifically to Sergius of Radonezh. Here in Kazan we also often sing his troparion at all-night vigils. The main thing is that the foundation with insulation is done, as Alexander wrote, otherwise the Ural frosts really tear up the concrete.
Good to hear the troparion gets sung regularly in your choir – ours does the same on his feast days and it always lifts the service. The ZIK site is a bit of an industrial corner, so having St Sergius there feels especially right. Hope the foundation work holds up through the Urals winter.
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It's good that they still chose St. Sergius at ZIK, in our parish we also remember him in the fall when we make cakes for the patron saint. I hope they put good insulation in the foundation, I've heard how the concrete cracks in the frosts of the Urals if they don't do it right.
I'm glad for ZiK, Sergius of Radonezh is really always helpful. And about the foundation with insulation - I completely agree, we had the same thing at our dacha last year, the concrete cracked after the first winter. Your wife probably also talked about waterproofing?
Yes, Tony, the choice of St. Sergius is very appropriate for an industrial place like yours. Here in Tripoli, we also pray to him a lot in the winter because he gives strength to patience. But I agree with you, they must insulate the foundations well, and may God protect the building from the extreme cold.
Yes, Sergius of Radonezh is a very suitable saint for the plant; after all, he himself worked with his hands. In Minsk we also often sing his troparion, especially at altar ceremonies. And they correctly noticed about the foundation with insulation, the Ural frosts don’t like jokes, my daughter’s concrete at the dacha without protection was all cracked in two winters.
Nicola, Sergius is really suitable for industrial places. I pray for him on cold days as well because he reminds me to be patient in the long winter. But I wonder, have you built a new church in his name in Tripoli, or do you just remember him in the prayers?
Well said, Viorica, in our church choir we still remember St. Sergius every patron with hot cakes. I hope they put some serious insulation in the foundation too, I've read how the concrete cracks there at -30 degrees if they don't do it right. Have you heard anything concrete about this project from ZIK?
Yes, my wife kept talking about waterproofing while the foundation was being poured. At our dacha in the Moscow region, the concrete also cracked after the first winter, now every year we apply it and insulate it in a new way. What did you end up saving at your dacha?
Thank you, Maria, you definitely noticed about his hands - Sergius both carpentered and sowed, just right for factory workers. Here in the Urals, too, concrete doesn’t stand without insulation; I made the same foundation for my mother-in-law’s plot with penoplex, for five years without a single crack. In Minsk, in which parish is the troparion most often sung?
At our dacha near Krasnodar, the concrete also floated after the first winter; my wife then insisted on normal waterproofing and polystyrene foam on top. Now it has been standing for five years, there are not even cracks. In your Moscow region, what exactly do you apply every year?
Yes, Gheorghe, warm cakes in honor of Saint Sergius are a beautiful tradition in our choir. I heard that at the foundation they poured with special additions for the frost there, but I don't know the exact brand of concrete. Where did you read about those cracks at -30?
Yes, Gheorghe, warm cakes at the church are a good custom, I also remember from our services. I read all about those anti-freeze additives on a construction forum in the Urals, they said that without plasticizer the concrete will surely crack in those frosts. Do you have any idea when I say finish the foundation?
Yes, Gheorghe, hot cakes with Saint Sergius are something that has kept our choir together for many years. I read in a church newspaper that at ZIK they brought concrete with additives from a company in Ekaterinburg especially for areas with high frost, but I still wonder if they also put fiberglass reinforcement as is done now in our halls. What do you think, do you think they finish the foundation by winter?
Thank you, Elena, you really noticed exactly about Sergius’s hands - for our factory workers this is close. In Tula, we also made a foundation with penoplex at our dacha, and it’s been standing smoothly for four years now, not a single crack. And in Minsk, the troparion is most often sung at parishes in honor of Alexander Nevsky, I heard from friends.
Thank you, Natalya, it’s interesting about penoplex at the dacha - I also heard that it holds up well on our soils. Is there a church in honor of Sergius in Tula? Here at ZiK the workers say that a saint with a tool in his hands is closest to them.
In our Moscow region, too, the concrete floated at first, but we apply Penetron every year and cover it with roofing felt on top. We haven’t tried polystyrene foam because we’re afraid the mice will eat it. At your dacha near Krasnodar, what kind of foam did you use, regular or extruded?
At our dacha near Krasnodar they put ordinary polystyrene foam, 5 cm, just between the blocks and the ground. Until the mice got there, it’s already been there for five years. And applying Penetron every year is how much work, Timofey? You have very wet soil in the Moscow region, right?
Thank you, Natalya, it’s interesting about penoplex at the dacha in Tula, I have a similar story - last year I also put it on the site under a shed, and so far it’s standing like a glove. But the troparion of Alexander Nevsky is often sung in Minsk, I didn’t know, it’s interesting. Do you also have such churches at your factory in Tula, or is this more about dachas?
Yes, Elena, about Sergius’s hands is exactly on point - our people on the ZiK immediately picked it up. I had my own story with the foundation: at a dacha near Pervouralsk I poured it without penoplex, and after two winters a crack appeared in the corner, I had to redo it. And in Minsk, the troparion to Sergius is most often sung, they say, at the parish in honor of Peter and Paul, there is a strong choir.
Timofey, your story with the foundation is just like a textbook - without penoplex you won’t forgive winter. In our ZiK, too, at first they wanted to fill it easier, but after your example, probably now everyone is in favor of mountain insulation. Is there really a strong choir for Peter and Paul in Minsk? I wonder if they sing “Not Imams of Other Help” just as clearly?
In Nizhny, the soil is also damp, but we simply laid two layers of roofing felt on the foundation and covered it with expanded clay. Mice really love polystyrene foam; they chewed up all of my neighbor’s in one winter. Have you ever tried Penetron at your dacha?
Our soil on ZiK is also wet, so we abandoned the roofing felt in two layers - we immediately added Penetron to the concrete, and so far it’s dry. Expanded clay is an interesting option, thank you. And at the dacha they tried Penetron only in the old cellar, it has been there for three years now, the mice do not touch it.
In our area in Tula, we also put regular polystyrene foam, but only 3 cm, and so far it’s staying dry. And “Penetron” every year is really a chore, Timofey, or have you already developed a habit there? We at ZiK, by the way, just covered the foundation for the church with roofing felt, I wonder how it went from there.
On our site, too, mice completely ate the foam plastic in a couple of seasons. And we tried Penetron at the dacha - it has stayed dry in the foundation of the garage for three years. Do they often do this with roofing felt in Nizhny?
It’s also a bit humid on our site, so they immediately poured Penetron into the foundation, like you did. I poured expanded clay under the screed in the garage at the dacha - it’s dry and keeps it warm. Have you had mice in your cellar before?
I wonder how they react to Penetron.
In our dacha in Nizhny, roofing felt is also often placed under the foundation, especially if the area is wet. I also tried Penetron on the blind area - it hasn’t leaked for five years now. Do your mice bite straight into the foam or just gnaw at the outside?
It’s also a bit humid in our area, so the roofing material under the foundation is always layered. My mice bite into the foam, especially if it doesn’t have a protective mesh; I’ve already remade it twice. How thick was the blind area with Penetron?
At our dacha, we also put roofing felt under the foundation for humidity, it helps. And the blind area with Penetron was made 10 centimeters thick, it seems to be holding up. Do you mix anything into the foam for the mice or just cover it with a net?
We also have close water on our site, we always put roofing felt under the foundation, we can’t do without it. The blind area with Penetron was 12 cm, so far we are not complaining. Do your mice only crawl into polystyrene foam or into regular insulation too?
At our dacha, the groundwater is also high, I put two layers of roofing felt under the foundation, it’s been checked. But the mice climbed into my mineral wool no worse than into polystyrene foam; then I had to cover everything with metal mesh. I also tried Penetron in the blind area, how many years does it last for you?
The waters on our site are also high, so we laid two layers of roofing felt under the foundation, as you did. And Penetron has been in the blind area for six years now, there are no cracks yet. Mice really do get into the mineral wool; we put some netting around it - it helped. What cell grid did you use?
We also had two layers of roofing felt under the foundation; we couldn’t do without it. The Penetron has been in the blind area for three years now, and there are no cracks yet. And we took a mesh with a 5x5 mm cell, small, so that we would definitely not get through. Which one did you have?
We also have two layers of roofing felt, but we also put a drainage pipe around the perimeter - water still sometimes comes up. The mesh was taken with a cell of 10x10 mm, it was cheaper, but no mice were visible yet. Where do you apply Penetron on the blind area - only along the top or along the entire height?
We also have two layers of roofing felt, but we also put a plastic film on top, just in case. Penetron was used in the blind area, it lasts the second season, so far without cracks. And we took a 10x10 mesh; we thought that a fine 5x5 would be too rigid for pouring.
They also took Penetron from our blind area, but they did without the top film. I wonder how much roofing felt it took in terms of area? Our foundation is 6 by 9, counted as two layers.
We also needed two layers of roofing felt; without it, the foundation would quickly become damp. The Penetron has been in the blind area for three years now, there are no cracks. And we took an 8x8 mesh, medium, so that there would be rigidity and the solution would pass through normally. How much concrete did you use for the foundation?
